Oakley-Ambrose-Jarmin family

Over the last few years, a fascinating discussion has been taking place concerning the possible Romany-Gypsy links with Glemsford family names. A new entry has just been made - follow the link from the title.


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Oakley Family

The Oakley Family is one of the more frequently-mentioned Glemsford names when people ask about their ancestors.

I am delighted to be able to assist those enquirers by adding this link to Ben Oakley's detailed research into the name he bears:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~oakleyfamilytree/

Ben is more than happy to help with any Oakley-related queries you may have; equally, I shall maintain references on here as and when I can, so that the maximum amount of information is available to those who need it.

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Oakley and Chatters families

I've had an enquiry from someone researching these families, and particularly the marriage of Ada Clarke (nee Chatters) to Tom Oakley, both born (probably) in the late 1870s.

If anyone has any thoughts, particularly about the latter, because he seems very elusive in the Censuses, we'd love to hear from you via the "response" mechanism, or direct to my email.

Ta ever so.

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Ince, Oakley and Jarmin families

Jack Ince has been in touch:
I moved to Thetford 6 years ago and started researching my ancestors 2 years ago at the age of 78.

I was sursprised to find that my roots on my father`s side were in Clare, going back to John Inch 1660 and Glemsford.

In Glemsford my ancestors go back to Jarmin Oakley 1773-1847 via his daughter Elizabeth1817-1881

Through Jarmin his father Samual 1742 who married Elizabeth the Jarmins..
Looking at the web I came across your web site.

I wonder if there are any Oakleys or Jarmins still living in Glemsford? I have about 300 on my tree but I come to a dead end around 1900.
Any information about your society any the Oakleys and Jarmins in particular will be most welcome.

As usual, if you can help Jack, please get in touch via me.
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Oakley, Ambrose, Jarmin family

Robert has left this comment on the original entry; I'm republishing it here to see if anyone can help.

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Can someone answer a question for me?

During research into my Jarmin family history I have identified an ancestor that is recorded on ancestry.co.uk as "Johes Jarmin, son of Sir Ambrose who married Alice Elliot".
I have no documentary proof that Johes is the father of my ancestor other than the numerous entries on many online family trees.

I have tried to find 3rd party confirmation of the lineage and have checked the Jarmin entry in "The baronetage of England by William Betham" published in 1803. However, it makes no mention of a Johes as a son of Sir Ambrose but it does mention a John who married a Margaret Stanley and it also says that John died without children.

I know that poor entries on ancestry.co.uk can be replicated at speed and soon become 'fact' and I wondered if this mysterious Johes is one such entry.

Can anyone shed any light?

Oakley, Ambrose, Jarmin family

Just a brief note to point people at some fascinating comments about these families:
http://glemsfordfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2009_02_01_archive.html

Well worth the look.

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Oakley, Ambrose, Jarmin family

Janet Jarmin has added another comment to the Oakley, Ambrose, Jarmin thread.

It should be available by clicking on the link in the title line, above.

Thanks again, Janet

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New comment published

Rory has added a fascinating comment to the Oakley, Ambrose, Jarmin family thread.

He also refers to an earlier comment he made about the origins of Little Egypt. I've included that on a page of its own, which you can find at this address.

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Oakley, Ambrose, Jarmin family

Jane Davey is looking for info on these families:

"My granny was Elizabeth Oakley (1891) and her mum was Eliza Jane Jarmin (1864) , daughter of Jane Jarmin (1845). I can't find any record of Jane's marriage to anyone. Jane's parents were William Jarmin (1792) and Martha Boreham (1802). My great grandad was Henry Oakley (1831) who married Emma Ambrose (1840), but I've come to a halt with Emma's family. Any info would be great.

I'm also interested in a particular christian name that keeps appearing in the census and family info - Mahala. Several of my female ancestors had this name and it's reallly unusual even today - if anyone knows why this name was so popular in Glemsford I'd love to know too!"

As always, if anyone can help, please make your initial contact through me.

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Oakley-Jackson-Gridley-Mortlock

Susan Catudal, in Montreal (via London), has been in touch about her family, part of which emerged from Glemsford. I have been able to offer some general assistance, but would like to see what people have to offer about these points:

One missing link in my family tree is with an ancestor named Emma Mortlock.
Born in Glemsford in 1849 to Caroline Mortlock( 1820). No father is named on Emma's birth cert, so she was given her mother's surname.
Emma married Abraham Oakley Jackson in 1869 and the following year my Grandfather, Harry Jackson was born.
I would like to find relatives of his 2 brothers -Johnny Jackson(1876) and Percy(1884) - all born in Glemsford.
Harry eventually came to London after the Boer War.

Another 'mystery' is that Abraham Oakley Jackson seems also to be named after his mother, Amelia Jackson(1832).
I did, curiously enough, find one Abraham Oakley(1836) who I assume was with Amelia Jackson, but maybe never married her.

I found on a census a brother for Abraham Oakley Jackson being born in 1854 , being raised by an Abraham Oakley! I would like to know if A Oakley was indeed the father and why the children were surnamed Jackson!

If anyone can help, Susan's email address is:
susancatudal AT videotron.ca

(if you're a real person rather than one of those infernal Spam machines, you'll be able to replace the AT with an @ - and no spaces!)

or, of course, you can contact me!

Oakley Family

Ben Oakley has been in touch:

I am researching the Oakleys in Glemsford.

I currently have my self, Ben Oakley b.1978, linked back to Jarmin Oakley b.1772 via Nigel, Edward, Ben, Harry, Henry and William.

It is fairly 'bare bones' at the moment so any padding would be helpful.

I would appreciate being added to your page.

Searching through the archives, I see a few names that I am already in contact with so it should prove fruitful.

Well done on a good site and I hope it continues.

My pleasure, Ben. Thanks for the comment.

As usual, anyone who wishes to get in touch can either leave a message/comment here or email me.

Steve Clarke

It works!

At last, someone has added a successful comment to an earlier request - see September 2006, the Oakleys.

It proves the page can work.

So now you can all get commenting.

Steve

Oakley and Turner: Sydney, NSW

Could anyone having info on James Oakley (England) or Jane Turner (Scotland) who married at St Andrews Scots church in Sydney NSW, 1849, witnesses George Brown and Helen McGray, please contact me?

There were a few James Oakleys transported from England to Australia, including James Oakley from Glemsford in 1829.

There was a James Oakley of Dudley, Worcestershire, born 1810 who was tried at age 22 at Stafford Assizes for stealing fowls.
He sailed for Australia onthe "Parmelia" on 16 November 1832.
He had been married and had two male children. Does anyone know more about their family line?

Regards,

Susan Lamberton (nee Oakley)

As always, contact me (Steve Clarke) in the first instance, and I will put you in touch with Susan.

Help needed for the Oakley family.

I am trying to find out when my Great Great Grandmother Mary Ann Oakley was born in Glemsford and any information that would help me to take the line back further.

The census information gives birth dates of 1835-1842 and I can find no suitable entries on the birth, marriage and death indices.

Her parents were Timothy who married Amelia Edwards in 1831 in Glemsford.

On the 1841 census she is shown living with 2 older bothers, William and Hezekiah, and one younger brother Thomas at Creeksea in Essex.
Timothy died in 1849 and the family fell on hard times with Amelia being sentenced to a year in prison in 1851 and Mary Ann ending up in Rochford Union Workhouse, Rochford, Essex.
There are 3 Oakley brothers born between 1843-1846 also in the workhouse at this time who may or may not be connected to Mary Ann.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Angela Levett

As usual, if you can help Angela, contact me and I will put you in touch.

Oakley and Argent

Hello!

I am a newcomer to this site.

I have interests in the Oakleys and Argents of Glemsford.

My Gt.Grandfather was an Oakley and there is a connection to the Argents.

Can anyone help?

Regards Eileen

As usual, if you can help Eileen, either log in and add a comment, or contact me and I'll forward your reply.